[anti-abuse-wg] WHOIS (AS204224)

On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 11:56:51AM +0100, denis wrote:
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>Add to that all the possible language issues and I am not sure how you 
>will expect the RIPE NCC to validate all this personal contact data 
>with people who they have no relationship with and who may have never 
>heard of the RIPE NCC or RIPE. Anyone who receives an email from an 
>organisation they have never heard of, possibly in a language they 
>don't understand, asking to validate personal information...well you 
>know how that will be treated these days.

I've occasionally done db cleanup death-marches for customers
where I've created/updated/deleted 100 or so objects in a single
day. (usually with contact data relating to the LIR which does
have a contract with the NCC) 
Is the idea seriously that someone doing this will have to field
100 phone calls or reply to 100 emails over the day?

What about the numerous LIRs who do their resource management
programatically, without human input?

IMO, such actions would actually discourage proper resource
management and lower the quality of the db.

>Also bear in mind a single data validation is quite pointless. What is 
>valid today may not be tomorrow. So you cannot trust data that was 
>validated yesterday. To have any benefit this data would have to be 
>routinely re-validated. Given the quantity of personal data sets in 
>the RIPE Database (we are talking millions), many of whom have never 
>heard of the RIPE NCC, to ask them to undertake this exercise would 
>result in the RIPE NCC being reported to many law enforcement 
>authorities for phishing.

Not even considering the inevitable members' revolt.

rgds,
Sascha Luck