[anti-abuse-wg] Solving the issue of rogue ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database

Hi Gert

Thanks for the quick response and support.

On 05/11/2015 20:56, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 07:40:58PM +0000, ripedenis at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> So here is my 4 step proposal that I believe could be implemented within a month. If we implemented this you can be sure that all ROUTE objects in the RIPE Database were created with the knowledge and approval of the related resource holders. I believe that is the desired goal.
>
> This sounds like a workable and fairly low-effort approach to me which
> would bring lots of direct benefits.  So +1, full support.
>
> (I do see some resistance in the form "but, but, what about the other
> databases?" - yes, we need to clean up cross-registry and all that, but
> cleaning up our own backyard right away without having to wait for
> the global solution is GOOD)

I agree a full implementation of cross registry auth with all 4 other 
RIRs would be great....but how far has that gone in the last 6 months 
since the last RIPE Meeting?

>
>> STEP 4
>>
>> This is a one off cleanup of existing ROUTE objects. For all ROUTE
>> objects currently in the RIPE Database that relate to an out of
>> region, existing resource, send the appropriate notifications. For
>> any that no response is received within a week, delete the ROUTE
>> object from the RIPE Database.
>
> I'm a bit more careful about that one, though - in principle, yes, but
> "one week" is a bit harsh here, so I'd go for multiple reminders and
> a longer time.  This is a different case than "I have just added this
> object and it is now showing up (with an appropriate message by the
> DB robot), so let's just check my mail until the reminder appears!".

Agreed.

>
> (NB: did you intentionally not copy db-wg?)

I put this idea on the table before the last RIPE Meeting. I even wrote 
a RIPE Labs article on it. I wasn't there but tried to get it input to 
the BOFF on the issue. But I was pretty much ignored. So I thought this 
time I will target the people who make the most complaints about the 
consequences of the problem.

If these guys like the idea then maybe the DB WG will pick it up :)

cheers
denis

>
> Gert Doering
>          -- NetMaster
>