[anti-abuse-wg] WHOIS (AS204224)

On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 06:50:41PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
[irrelevant ranting redacted]
>Is anyone here either willing or able to defend _either_ the accuracy
>and correctness of that specific RIPE WHOIS record _or_ the
>vetting process that RIPE NCC applied to the data contained
>therein?
>If so, please proceed.  I'm all ears.

While I can't speak for the accuracy of the AS204224 record, I
can say that the procedures used by the RIPE NCC to verify the
identity of its members are sufficient and, in my personal
opinion sometimes overreaching. So are the sanctions available 
for incorrect or false registry entries.
If you were a member or had you bothered to read the relevant
documentation of the process as detailed at https://www.ripe.net
you would know that.
If I remember correctly, I have also pointed you at this 
documentation before.

The RIPEDB allows the registration of out-of-region objects
which is mostly due to the fact that there are RIRs who either
have no, or no useful, WHOIS registry. the NCC is doing that for
the good of the Internet and has, obviously, no legal authority
to verify the identity of those objects.


>If so, please proceed.  I'm all ears.
>
>From where I am sitting however it appears me that the both the
>data contained in the RIPE WHOIS record for AS204224 and also
>whatever process RIPE NCC followed to validate that data are...
>not to put too fine a point on it... nothing short of bovine
>excrement.

Evidence please, until then I will regard this as baseless
slander. 

>Forget ICANN.  Is _RIPE_ also a slacker when it comes to
>maintaining its own WHOIS data base?  Are officially sanctioned
>RIPE policies and procedures making to harder than it ought to
>be to stop, or even to just merely identify criminals, con men,
>and spammers on the Internet?  If so, when was that decision
>ratified, and by whom?

The Policy Development Process is detailed in documentation on
the abovementioned website.

rgds,
Sascha Luck