[anti-abuse-wg] Hijack Factory: AS201640 / AS200002

Hi,

On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:03:57AM +0000, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Throwing Richard Cox out of a wg vice chair role in an AOB session where
> lots of regulars from other parts of the ripe meeting just happened to
> wander in happened too, not too long back, so please don't remind me about
> ACTA.
> 
> As for the policy proposal I assume whoever makes it will make it in public
> and with drafts posted here so you're entirely free not to vote for it.
> 
> But I doubt you or anyone else can ask to stop any proposal at all being
> placed on the agenda. Whether or not it gets consensus is a different next
> step.

Well, actually the chair *is* free to reject a formal(!) policy proposal
if it better fits into another WG, and the other chair is happy to take
it - you know, there's a well-defined formal policy development process,
and "WG chair accepts proposal" is one of the first steps...

Anyway, I'm not sure I agree or disagree with Sascha - it affects address
policy (which covers AS numbers), OTOH, the anti-abuse WG is free to 
come to consensus and send over messages to other working groups.

If it happens in AP, you have the "policy community" scrutiny it, but they
might not fully understand the underlying abuse issues - so input would
be needed to demonstrate why this would be a necessary change.  If it 
happens here, the abuse side of things is understood, but the secondary
implications on "legitimate use cases" might not be (see the question
about "why can an AS number be assigned to an entity that is not actually
announcing any own space").

But then, WG chairs have been overheard to talk to each other, so WGs
can coordinate closely if useful.

Gert Doering
        -- member of the abuse-wg, chair of the AP WG
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