[anti-abuse-wg] Hijack Factory: AS201640 / AS200002

Hi,

On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:55:52PM +0000, anfernandez at lavanguardia.es wrote:
> When RIPE is actually a judge that decided to protecting internet piracy. You can be sure that RIPE will open an expedient to any LIR that do not pay its fee, but you can keep waiting to see RIPE opening  an expedient to investigate bad use of internet by one of their associated LIRs.

It should be made totally clear that spamming, pirating movies, and so
on is a legitimate usage of IP addresses IF THE JURISDICTION OF THE LIR
IN QUESTION PERMITS IT.

We might not *like* it, but if it's legal in, say, Romania to send out
large amounts of e-mail, attacking the RIPE NCC for providing IP addresses
to a LIR in .ro is not the way to fix it.

Now, we all might agree that SPAM is evil, and pirating moviez is also
evil.  What about encouraging political debate?  China might have a 
stance here.  What about pictures of men kissing men?  Russia might not
like that.

Things that are totally inacceptable for some parties are things that
other parties want protected by freedom of speech, or freedom of doing
business.

So, the NCC can, will and *should* not act on "things people do not 
like" - it will (and does) act if being lied to, or if a judge decides 
that a LIR's business is illegal.

In this particular case, I wonder why nobody is yelling at the upstream
who is happily forward packets for that AS...  due dilligence at
accepting customer prefixes would have easily caught the announcements.

(Yes, I understand that I'm now officially part of the problem, as
I'm obviously not willing to do everything technically possible to 
stop particular sorts of badness)

Gert Doering
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