[anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Autonomous System Numbers

In message <5458EB47.5000901 at heanet.ie>, you wrote:

>Ronald,
>
>I've raised this with the NCC and asked them to prepare an answer to 
>these questions as I feel they fall within their purview.
>
>Hopefully they will be able to get back to you soon.
>
>Brian
>Ronald F. Guilmette wrote, On 01/11/2014 03:52:
>> A few questions, if you don't mind...
>>
>> Given some arbitrary record which is stored within the RIPE WHOIS
>> data base, such as an organization (ORG-*) record or a record for
>> a number resource, such as an AS, how can I determine the date on
>> which that record was created?  Do I just look for the earliest
>> date found in any of the associated changed: fields?

Just to make sure I'm clear... No one on this list knows the answer,
even to the above trivial question?

>> Give an AS number, issued within the RIPE region, how can I find
>> the identity of the associated LIR?  Is the identity of the
>> associated LIR provided by the sponsoring-org: field of the
>> WHOIS record for the AS?

Same again.  I am rather astonished that not a single person within
a group focused on dealing with network abuse issues within the RIPE
region can even say how to find the LIR that issued a given AS.  Does
no one, other than me, ever even get curious about such things?

>> What sorts of credentials or bona fides must or should applicants
>> who are requesting AS number allocations provide to the RIPE LIR
>> which processes the request(s)?

Same comments as above.

>> Has any AS number allocation, issued within the RIPE region, ever
>> been revoked without the consent of the registrant of that allocation?
>> If so, which ones?  And in those cases, what policies and/or procedures
>> were used or followed during the revocation process?  Are these
>> policies and/or procedures written down someplace, or are they entirely
>> ad hoc?

Someone did write to me, off-list, with a semi-response to the above,
informing me that ``details'' of RIPE investigations are non-public.
I should probably have clarified that I wasn't asking for any specific
details about any specific case.  I asked, in the first instance, if any
AS allocation had ever been revoked.  That's a yes/no question, and one
which I thought would have been easy to answer, particularly by members
of a group focused on network abuse issues.

But if all of these questions can only be answered by the NCC, then I
guess that's the way it is, and I thank you for forwarding my queries to
them.