[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Reporting Issues

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013, MailPlus| David Hofstee wrote:

> Hi Frederik,
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> Who has an interest in a clean database? The sloppy Org or Ripe? The answer is Ripe, therefore it should also spend energy [via Ripe Ncc] in (making sure that Orgs are) keeping it clean.




Maybe there should be a new category for LIRs, Large, Medium, Small, and Sloppy, extra
fees on the Sloppy so RIPE kan keep their records up to date.







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> Kids do not grow up themselves, it requires an active process. Organisations are not much different.
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> David
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Fredrik Widell [mailto:fredrik at resilans.se]
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 maart 2013 10:37
> Aan: MailPlus| David Hofstee
> CC: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Onderwerp: RE: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Reporting Issues
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> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013, MailPlus| David Hofstee wrote:
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> Well, that is probably more a sign of a sloppy organisation, it is up to the LIR to keep the ripedb up to date, this is not the role of RIPE. You probably dont expect RIPE to keep track of your old DNS-entrys and give you a phone-call if it seems that a customer-name is wrong do you?
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>> Hi Frederik,
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>> I am such a person (DH3195-RIPE). I entered my email a long time ago. Unlike passwords that expire and accounts that get locked when not used, this vital contact info is never re-validated. We never get mail that says: "Ripe wants to confirm that you are still having Role X in your organisation. Click here to confirm.". A full-inbox bounce could trigger a phone call. Etc.  Ripe should charge money for not keeping records up to date.
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>> In my (ESP) world, an email address that has not been used by the list-owner for over a year is a risk for a spam trap ;-).
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>> Bye,
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>> David
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