[anti-abuse-wg] Bye Bye

'Marco d'Itri' wrote:
> On Jun 29, Erik Bais<ebais at a2b-internet.com>  wrote:
>
>> I have to disagree with you, there IS a v4 market .. and people are already
>> in pain or are looking at how to fix their issue.
> I see people trying to buy IPv4 space (even if most of them are
> spammers).
> I do not see many people trying to sell IPv4 space.
>
> Why sell now while the price is still going up?
>

Funny enough we do get a lot of requests to give IP space
away during the last few month and we never had these kind
of requests before.
Usually the interest drops, when we tell them, that
we only use our allocation for services in our
housing centers :o)

This increased interest could be, because IPv4 space is getting
rare or it could also be because of the new abuse-c.
Usually our customers are quite happy, if they dont have
to manage an abuse address themself.

But its funny with these kind of offers we get now,
they always offer to handle abuse reports themself :o)

Thats make me thinking:
- what about an LIR that does not know, what his "customer"
   is doing ? lets say, he sells the IP space, it gets announced
   somewhere in the world, he does not route it, it not his AS
   anymore and surely not his abuse-c

How can he control the initial usage of the "customers"
netblocks ?
How could he be informed by others, that his "customer" is a
professional spammer ?


Kind regards, Frank
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