[anti-abuse-wg] Bye Bye

There has been little or no reason to adopt v6 so far, other than as an
alternate means of connectivity to reach what, geek operated mail, ftp and
rsync servers for Linux distros and assorted open source software?

With some majors like Google starting to adopt it, and with only a few
years left for a v4 aftermarket, carrier grade nat etc to have any effect,
and with newer generations of devices yet to ship with v6 only stacks but
that's a matter of time... That is when you will start to see the true
uptake and growth of v6. I rather suspect what i predict may well happen in
our lifetimes, or even in the couple of decades of years before I retire

--srs (htc one x)

On 28-Jun-2013 1:37 PM, "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:27:19PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> > I know the size of the v6 namespace
> > Remember that we are currently working with a smaller effective size..
The
> > allocated part of v6, with martian filters to block out the rest
> >
> > And out of that.. Well, the more space poorly administered allocation
> > policies squander by handing them to abusers without very much due
> > diligence, the more trouble the rest of us face
>
> I'm aware of all that, but I *can* do the math.
>
> Inside RIPE's /12, there are *one million* /32s.
>
> > As for the future, I won't try predicting what the internet will be like
> > and what devices from where will connect over v6. I would just tell you
to
> > avoid history repeating itself so we don't look back with regret at this
> > conversation after a decade or two
>
> I've heard that argument so many times over the last 16 years where the
> much more important goal should have been "get IPv6 deployed!" instead of
> worrying about "not giving out IPv6 addresses to <somesortofentity>, as
> they might run out!".
>
> We're inside a /12, which has LOTS of space left.
>
> That /12 is inside a /3, which is barely touched (5 /12s out of 512
allocated).
>
> And *that* /3 has 6 more to be used, if we really mess up.
>
>
> I'll start to reconsider my position if we manage to fill the RIPE /12 by
> giving out standard-size allocations (/32) in the next 20 years.
>
> I'll start to *worry* if we fill half of 2000::/3 in the next 30 years.
>
> I'll publically admit I was wrong about my IPv6 use predictions if we
> fill FP001 (2000::/3) in the next 40 years.
>
> ... and *then*, we have people that can learn from what happened in FP001
> and get it right in one of the next FPs.
>
> Gert Doering
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> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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