[anti-abuse-wg] New Abuse Information on RIPE NCC Website

On Friday 21 June 2013 15.20, Sascha Luck wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 02:50:35PM +0200, peter h wrote:
> 
> >A few providers actually prevent spam. Those won't show up in listings.
> >To stay out of listings one has to be more then whining, one has to
> >actually prevent spam originating!
> 
> Just for the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing for the scanning of the
> content of outgoing third-party email (aka Censorship) in order to avoid
> landing on some blocklist?
> 
> rgds,
> Sascha Luck

I'm just saying that any provider that allows spam to flow out there is a large
risk of getting on blocklists.

There is a number of ways to provent this happen, a good customer contract is
a good start, surveillance of outbound mail another, blocking port 25 from customers pc 
a third. As i understand they did nothing of the sort - thus spam will happen.

( spammers are seeking unprotected pc's on sloppy ISP network. When they find it
they plant a trojan and start spewing spam. Preventing this in the first place
is a good start. Whan spam is detected isolation of affected pc's another step)

Sending mail to my servers is not an inherent right, it's something that is granted
on MY conditions. Same goes for my customers. 
> 
> 
> 

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        Peter Håkanson   

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        again ... and again ... and again ... and again.
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