[anti-abuse-wg] Notice: Fradulent RIPE ASNs

Suresh,

[ using your top-posting style in this reply, to avoid "crossing the
  streams" ]

We can have transparent processes, that have no "teeth" as you say.

We can also have strict policies that are enforced in secret.

Both transparency and effectiveness are important.

I do think ISPs are more likely to support a fair and transparent
policy that will punish abusers than they will to support a fair and
secretive policy that will punish abusers, because they will have no
guarantees that they will be safe under such a system.

Cheers,

--
Shane

On Tuesday, 2013-01-22 07:20:26 +0530, 
Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we are missing the main point rfg raised and going around in
> circles about transparency.
> 
> How do we give enough teeth to ripe ncc's audit processes, and it's ip
> allocation processes, especially through LIRs,  so that the issue we
> are concerned about is mitigated?