[anti-abuse-wg] Enabling community self-help?

HI,

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 09:36:38AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> BTW Gert - never mind the "spam is illegal or not" type argument here.
>  Let us try it another way.
> 
> Does the average russian botmaster who submits paperwork for a new /20
> say he needs the /20 to host his botnet c&cs?
> 
> Or something else entirely?
> 
> In other words, besides all the ranting about how you are not the
> document police so you can't possibly verify the registrant .. does
> that document policing argument also extend to not verifying all the
> weird and wonderful stories about media streaming, colo etc that the
> botmaster spins RIPE NCC in his allocation paperwork?

So how exactly do you verify business *plans*?

We've seen enough customers come up with wonderful ideas about their
Internet application, requesting a /22 or similar, only to figure out
half a year later that their idea wasn't so good in the end, they have
only used 5 IP addresses, and are nearly bancrupt.

So how can you see at application time whether something is a cool idea
that might or might not work out (but you wouldn't know until half a year
later) or is a blatant lie (which you wouldn't see unless they start using
the space and complaints come in)?

Besides... sending mail *is* a perfectly acceptable usage of IP addresses.

Gert Doering
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