[anti-abuse-wg] whois 5C's

 >Russ First of all the SOCA 5 Cs document has absolutely nothing to do 
with WHOIS access or display.
 >It's to with whois data validation and verification. It's also not 
even about IP address space and was
 >actually aimed at domain names. With regard to your comments I have 
never had any issue accessing
 >any whois data for the RIPE region (or any other region for that 
matter) If law enforcement or anyone
 >else who was not using the data for commercial gain was having issues 
then I'm sure that it would be
 >addressed.

The point is if you cannot access the data it does not matter if it is 
verified so it is interrelated.  When you do a security check it is 
prudent to check the IP address as well as the domain so access to the 
vagarious whois databases (domains and IP's) is interrelated.

May people are complaining about RIPE whois access as well as access to 
many domain registrars.  You are not the only person using the Internet 
but your attitude is common among self-proclaimed abuse experts.  The 
only thing that matters is their person experience and not the many 
millions of Internet users.   You personally sit on some of these ICANN 
whois committees and it is clear you are not considering all the 
relevant issues (see my ICANN comments to the whois and fake renewal 
committees).  The point is that a small group of people with limited 
experience sit on all these committees and most users are locked out of 
the process and people like you go around ridiculing people and trying 
to get them to drop out of the process.

The issue has not fully been addressed because RIPE will not release the 
legal opinions related to whois access (something you go out of your way 
to avoid addressing).

Thank You