[anti-abuse-wg] the mandatory abuse field

lists at help.org wrote:

> The WHOIS service is a universal service used by people around the world

First, the whois service is a service from the RIPE NCC, stored
in a database maintained by the RIPE NCC, programmed from people
paid by the members of the RIPE NCC.

Second, it looks like to me, that the format in wich the data
is stored in that database, is finalized by people that
do not have to be from the RIPE region and do not
have to be a member of the RIPE NCC, the so-called community.
And thats weird ...

> and the RIR's have agreements in place to provide these services.

Based on RFCs that are finalized by people not being part of
that RIR. Strange ...

:People
> in other regions receive spam, abuse attempts, etc from the RIPE region
> and they need to use the whois just like the RIPE region needs to use
> other RIR whois. WHOIS policy should be set by a region, it should be
> universal across all RIR's.

Sure, one standarized whois would be wonderfull.
But, and thats my point, the format of the stored data, should
be decided by the members of those RIRs.

> The underlysing system is paid for by the US
> taxpayers via the IANA contract.

Really ?
Were do you have that from ?
IANA is getting its money from ICANN.

And IANA is not doing any service nor maintaining the database.

> If your ideas were to be used RIPE
> members should have no say, only the US taxpayer should dictate how it
> is run.
>
> As for ICANN, they are paid for by a domain tax. You are correct that
> the people that pay the tax generally have no say whatsoever which is
> why ICANN is not actually an Internet "governance."

Ok, so: IANA is getting paid by all people
all over the world, wich are buying domain names.
There is no money from US taxpayers being involved.
Where do you have that from ?

One goal of IANA is to coordinate RFCs, so a whois standarization
should be their thing, good, continue to complain to them.

Until then, I like the RIPE NCC to simply ask there members,
because neither the "comunity" nor non-members should
have anything to say about the service the NCC offers.



Kind regards, Frank
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