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[anti-abuse-wg] Some Facts for the Record
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russ at consumer.net
russ at consumer.net
Sat Jan 28 16:46:08 CET 2012
>That is between IANA (well, ICANN since IANA is a function of ICANN) and the US Government… The contract is with IANA (ICANN provides the resources but IANA is a distinct legal entity that entered into the contract). The contract allows IANA to delegate the IP's but they are responsible for the data surrounding the allocation. What it boils down to is that IANA has the ultimate responsibility for the data. When they allocate the IP's to someone else it is still IANA's responsibility for the authentication, integrity, and reliability of the data is still with IANA. I will agree that speculating on what the RIR requirements is not the basis for a stance on an issue. However, neither is "we have always done it this way." I looked at RFC 2050 and I see no issues there. IANA is allowed to delegate things to the RIR's and the RIR's can develop local policies for local issues. However, IANA is still ultimately responsible for the data. If some data responsibility is to transferred to the RIR then it would not be that big a deal to change the contract but the US Government must agree. IANA does not have the authority to transfer this responsibility on their own. I cannot immediately find the reference to IANA requirements for RIRs. I would speculate that there is a whois requirement like all the ICANN requirements for domain registries. That would bolster my argument but my argument does not hinge on that, it hinges on the IANA contract wording. If IANA had the authority to delegate something to someone else the contract would say so. It does say IANA can delegate the IP address space to regional registries but it does not say IANA can transfer the responsibility for the authentication, integrity, and reliability of the data to the RIRs. >PS: You seem to have a top-down view, while this is a bottom-up world. Yes. I have seen how this "bottom up" and "transparent" system works. How many transparency initiatives has ICANN had now? They seem to have one very few months ever since they started but they all fail. I had signed up for some type of community voting system years ago and what ever happened to that? I remember they harassed one Board member who used to suggest adding TLD's. Of course now that they came up with this big money grab scheme suddenly it is all the rage. I just don't believe or trust any of these ICANN or ICANN-like processes. I think ICANN was set up to tax people and the people paying the taxes have no say whatsoever. Since it is set up as a corporation rather than a government agency it circumvents one of the basic rights of taxpayers which is the access to the information (in the USA it is called the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA). Thank you
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