[anti-abuse-wg] definition of abuse

On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:31 PM, lists at help.org wrote:

> When you bring up an issue about following standards these are the kind of screwball messages you get from the so-called abuse community.  You have the people running the list trying to end a valid discussion.  That is because they if they have standards these people cannot run around making stuff up as they go along to fit their personal agenda.  Of course the one fellow has a home page where he wraps himself in a curtain and calls himself "emperor Shane" http://www.time-travellers.org/.  I think that about sums up the abuse "community" running this list.

I think you are the one trying to end a valid discussion. Shane's question is perfectly valid: Why does a working, widely accepted, "de facto" standard definition needs to stand out in court?

-lem