[anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 8, Issue 19

in which case we are wasting time and effort having this discussion, and regulatory compliance is probably the only thing that will produce a viable course of action

--srs (iPad)

On 14-Apr-2012, at 17:59, Karl-Josef Ziegler <kjz at gmx.net> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
>> The different pieces of contact information are all potential ways to
>> get in touch with the Internet number resource holder. If you have
>> difficulties reaching them via any of those details, you can report this
>> to us. I would recommend making a reasonable attempt to contact them
>> first though, for example by giving them a phone call if you find that
>> their email addresses are no longer working.
> 
> My experience: I've used the form because the email contacts from a
> provider in Romania were invalid. The phone contact given in the RIPE
> database was only a mobile phone number in Romania. I searched for this
> number in the web and only get a few results which all directed to the
> entry in the RIPE database. So it seems that this (prepaid?) phone was
> only used to register this IP space with RIPE.
> 
> My claim was denied because I didn't made an attempt to contact the
> provider on mobile phone in Romania. I didn't contact them because I
> don't speak Romanian and I feared retaliation from possible criminals in
> Romania. So for an individual it may be very difficult to fulfill all
> the external requirements which are made by RIPE NCC. And, of course,
> RIPE may be in a better position to repel retaliations.
> 
> RIPE NCC wrote back that they don't have the staff to check if the
> entries in the database are correct. So if RIPE will guarantee the
> validity of the database today they seem not to have the personal
> capacity for research.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> - Karl-Josef Ziegler
> 
> 
>