[anti-abuse-wg] broken contacts

On 5 Nov 2011, at 09:14, Lou Gogan wrote:
> Firstly, it is not the job of the Bank of Ireland to persue fraudsters all 
> around the world merely because they are pretending to be the BOI.

Actually it is .. 

> 
> This is an attempt to steal money from people. It is a crime. The only main 
> contact with the criminals is the ISP.

That's based on an assumption that the ISP / hosting provider actually has contact with the phisher. In most cases they wouldn't, as the bulk of phishing attacks go via compromised hosting accounts and / or accounts that lead to chargebacks


> They will know the acual contact details 
> of the criminls,

Doubtful - see above


> hopefully, and can act on that, or at the very least shut that 
> link down pronto.
> 
> Secondly, there are many scams out there trying to con people into giving 
> details of their credit cards etc with no direct connection to any bank - thus 
> the abuse contact details still should be easy to obtain so a report can be 
> sent from anyone aware of a fraud attempt, even a Lou Blogs.
> 
> Thought experiment:
> If you saw a bank robbery and the thieves were using a HONDA as the getaway car, 
> would you contact HONDA or would you contact the police? To a certain degree 
> you are saying I should contact Honda, whereas I would consider contacting the 
> police, or someone who can contact the police - in this case the ISP.


I'm really finding it hard to follow that analogy.


Regards

Michele


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