[anti-abuse-wg] broken contacts

Am Freitag, den 04.11.2011, 15:28 -0700 schrieb Leo Vegoda:
> Hi,
> 
> > Though I still think a direct contact with the IP would close down that 
> > fraudulent link immediately. 
> 
> There's no reason you can't do both. If you report it to the bank they have an interest in stopping the criminals while the network operators just has an interest in them moving on. 

Might be true but if such things would happen in my scope of
resposibility, I'd have no reason to *not* take this offline
immediately. If I know (and there is the problem!)
If you report such a thing at abuse at MYDOMAIN, promised, someone will
wake me up at 4 o'clock and we'll turn it off....
Thats how things should be, isn't it ? ;)

I guess there are far enough responsible people out there, to solve such
issues right away - but only if they have the tools to verify! and the
"rights" to react.. 
Currently we havent..(as the thread-starter noticed) 
This is IMHO not a matter of privacy (in terms of ISP - which we all
are?) but more bureaucracy burdens, legal stuff..

So I also wait what comes up there, I'll support it.
Long discussions, ok, but at some point in time there also has to be a
decision: do we want anonymous IP's in the RIPE region or not ?

Should it be possible to have an anonymous Scam/Spam-IP? I'd say no.
(sure that banks also badly failed to have secure methologies, but thats
not my scope, I have to take care about secure networks & IP ;))

Michael
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