[anti-abuse-wg] draft policy

Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:
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>> But the German citizens could not at all through whatever government could tell DENIC what to do.
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> That's not really true either
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> DENIC is subject to German law.
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> If German law forbade X then DENIC would not be able to do X
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> Having said that, the German government does not currently have direct control over DENIC. It can, of course, influence it indirectly
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> This is pretty much the same with all ccTLDs :)

Right, because surely an "e.g" has to follow German law.

Ok, to make it even more clearer:
- German citizens cannot take influence of DENIC rules or
   technical procedures until DENIC follows German law
- only DENIC members can modify DENICs technical procedures
   or regulations

- but any person can influence RIPEs regulations that the NCC
   has to fulfill in a more technical way
- NCCs members are paying for resources, but the decissions
   are not made by the members only

And thats simply wrong, stupid and highly risky.

BTW: just read a couple of days ago about a study that
a 10.000 PC botnet costs only about 800$/month.
Write a nifty little program and create 10.000 fake internet user.
And those could block any draft, just because no "consensus"
could be reached.

And I always wondered why there is that much wind-in-your-face, when
someone is having a great idea on this list.
I think its not really a problem for spammers to put a couple
of fake identities on the list, right ?

Just asking another thing:
why is there not one draft finally through resulting from discussions
on this list through all those years ?
why is there not even consensus about what abuse is ?
even when about 100 LIRs on this list liked those things ...

anybody on this list should be ashamed, that there are no results yet.

simply because anybody in the world can say "no, I dont like it" ...


Kind regards, Frank



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