[anti-abuse-wg] Hijacked netblocks - any SOP for these?

Slippery slope is a rather poor logical fallacy to bring up

Nobody is obligating RIPE to treat anything as conclusive evidence

Simply that they do some proactive monitoring instead of waiting for complaints

And that they have some published SOP for dealing with and recovering
hijacked ranges, or those obtained under false pretences  [SOP !=
policy, goes a bit beyond that]

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
<michele at blacknight.ie> wrote:
>
> On 28 Jul 2011, at 09:48, Frank Gadegast wrote:
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>> Not at all out of scope.
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> I think it is out of scope
>
> It is a slippery slope
>
> Next you'll have people demanding that RIPE check what content is published on IP blocks ..
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>
>
>>
>> You are right saying, that a listing does not proof anything,
>> but its a good indication (like I sayd above).
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> There are a multitude of reasons why an IP block can get listed - while it *might* be an indicator that you or I can use for our own *private* networks, it is not something that an organization like RIPE should be doing, as there is absolutely no standard or certification of DNS blacklists.
>
>
>>
>> RIPE NCC could ask the member, whats going on with that netblock,
>> if they see a listing. I guess a lot of members do not
>> even realize, that their old netblocks are routed
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> RIPE NCC has to check the use of assigned netblocks anyway
>> (if I understand some rules right).
>
> No - the "usage" is related to the assignment rules
>
>
>> It cannot be that
>> assigned netblocks are used by non-members or members
>> the netblock wasnt assigned to …
>
> Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean here
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> regards
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> Michele
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