[anti-abuse-wg] Re: Interaction between the RIPE and anti-abuse communities, was Draft Anti-Abuse WG Minutes ? RIPE 61

On 02/Feb/11 13:23, Gert Doering wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 07:21:36AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> The RIPE community should, as a whole, be more operationally focused
>> on this loss of a scarce shared resource by allocating large parts of
>> it to entities that use these for a very short time before
> 
> Since IPv4 is going to run out anyway, what difference does "extend lots
> of effort to gain a few month" make here?

IPv4 will run out when we'll either be able to vet peers without using
IP addresses, or have found how to effectively run IPv6 DNSBLs.

> I can see and share the desire to stop criminals using network resources,
> but the argument about "the big problem is waste of scarce resources"
> just doesn't fly with me - as it will not make a big difference one
> way or the other.

Scarceness makes a resource more precious.  For example, comparing a
/15 allocation to 250K$ implies a US monetary supply of 8G$.  Using
figures in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply#United_States
(8000G$) I'd guess Suresh meant a quarter of a *billion* dollars.