[anti-abuse-wg] Draft Anti-Abuse WG Minutes - RIPE 61

* Suresh Ramasubramanian:

> I thought we were talking about IP allocation, detecting shell
> companies and fake paperwork here, dave.

LLCs are so cheap to create in parts of the RIPE region that it's not
worth bothering with forgeries.  RIPE cannot discriminate against
newcomers too much, that would be the end of self-regulation.  (The
current charging scheme, grossly favoring owners of older resources,
is already quite problematic.)  RIPE has to hand out the initial
package of resources to any new LIR.  Of course, the LIR might not
exist past the first year, but that's plenty of time to recoup the
(rather small) investment.

Based on that, I think that any form of remediation has to come after
the allocation, and RIPE NCC has to gather and evaluate intelligence
on its own because trusting external sources opens the door to abuse.
(There is precedent for that because some TLDs/registry providers do
something like this.)  Therefore, I think Kauto's questions about RIPE
NCC processes in this area are very relevant.

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