[anti-abuse-wg] Spam FAQs need revision, was 2011-06 New Policy

MAAWG is not an advocacy or lobbying organization.  It is an
organization that advocates best practices.

"Reps for spam or spam support" and constant contact .. jesus, you
don't know too much do you?

As for yahoo - or gmail or any of the other large free services out
there, they can deter spammers from signing up.  And they can spam
filter their outbound email.  But I seriously doubt they, or anybody
else, is going to catch 100% of the spam.   They just happen to have
like several million users more than you do, so the volume of spam (as
opposed to the percentage of spam) is higher.

As for the interests of RIPE not being "aligned" with MAAWG  .. I'll
see your spam from amazon and constant contact and raise you a big
bunch of fake romanian and eastern european LIRs, assigned PA/PI
netblocks given to botmasters, "we are not the * police" memes etc.

--srs

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Thor Kottelin
<thor.kottelin at turvasana.com> wrote:
> Linking to MAAWG could also be viewed as a form of advocacy, and the
> interests of RIPE may not be entirely aligned with those of MAAWG.
>
> As an example, Yahoo is a MAAWG member at the highest level of influence
> ('Sponsor', which includes a seat on the MAAWG Board of Directors), but
> decade after decade, Yahoo inflicts enormous amounts of spam on the RIPE
> community and other Internet users. Other MAAWG members with reputations for
> spam and/or spam support include Amazon and Constant Contact.
>
> I would prefer for RIPE to produce its own information on spam and other
> forms of abuse of the network, as needed.



-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists at gmail.com)