[anti-abuse-wg] Correct info in RIPE-database

See the official reply of RIPE officials here below.
The charter of the present mailing list explicitly state:=>
-"This anti-abuse-wg list is explicitly not the place to report spam".

Or to give factual examples of new trends related to methods either of either spammers or trojans can be "Tools" to abusives end-uses like I once did. Need to find another way...!
By doing so, it potentially can be understood as a suggestion, that this network you have mentioned here below did omited or forged the RIPE's datas with a deliberate and intentional crooked intention.
while it could also be that the network operator has a heck of a wild time fighting trojans or virus intruding his network.
And that he just simply happened lately that he forgot to update his registration datas at RIPE.

There may be a more diplomatic method that would resolve the case?
For instance, why whouldn't blacklist the whole IP# block numbers until that network finds it strange that he cannot connect to your allocated IPs?

And he never does, everything's is for the best, isn't it?
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> Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:40:46 +0100
> To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse report.
> 
> "abuse at localhost.com" wrote the following on 09/08/2011 12:15:
>> James? Have you noticed the name of this present mailing list?
>> Why would there be the word "anti-abuse" in it?
>> Is an uncared for spam complaint "Off Topic"?
>> 
>> I don't think so.
> 
> Please look at the URL Kostas has posted, and sure I'll post it here
> again myself:
> 
> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/wg/anti-abuse
> 
> This list is explicitly not the place to report spam. It is also not a
> place for seemingly random and extremely difficult to follow digressions
> and accusations. Could you please review the charter of the group and
> the behaviour of others on the mailing list before posting further.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: info at webservice.be
> Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:56:32 +0200
> To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Correct info in RIPE-database
> 
> Dear members.
> 
> Last weekend I stumbled on a problem:
> We had problems in on of our BGP-prefixes.
> As the RIS Dashboard showed there was an overlapping Network in the same
> range as our prefix.
> 
> We then wanted to contact the ISP, so the route could be redrawn (or
> sort this issue out), however:
> on the RIPE database we found:
> - no adress
> - no telephone-number
> - a wrong emailadress
> 
> There was a link to a website, but after 4 phone-calls (where 1 has
> moved to another location, all the others where voice-mails), we gave up!
> 
> The ISP that I couldn't reach was telefonica, see it yourself at:
> http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=AS12956&do_search=Search
> 
> 
> 
> Now to tackle this problem:
> Shouldn't there be a phone-number or a hotline for BGP-issues?
> Especially with big problems it's a real problem to get to the right
> helpdesk/support.
> I know that some endusers who receive a spam email would contact that
> hotline also, however: is it possible to show that info only if a person
> is logged in into the LIR-portal?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Pascal Nobus
> --
> www.webservice.be
> Amelsdorp 72, 3740 Bilzen, Belgium
> Tel: +32.89257404, Fax: +32.70423475

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