[anti-abuse-wg] Policy Proposal: Place for Abuse Contact Information

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:48:56AM +0200, Tobias Knecht wrote:

Just few comments.

> Currently within the RIPE region, the biggest problem for network
> operators is to know the best place to publish abuse contact
> information. (IRT, abuse-mailbox, remark-fields, and in addition to
> that, in which object they should publish them?) On the other hand
> abuse reporting parties having a huge problem by finding a correct
> abuse contact in the variety of possibilities.
>
> Since there is a specialized object (IRT) for abuse contacts, this
> should be mandatory, to stop the uncontrolled growth.

Your arguments could be summarize like that: "there is a mess". Making
irt object mandatory has nothing to do with cleaning it up. Yet, I do
think that making it the only place of putting "abuse contact" is ok.

> 4.3 Delete abuse-mailbox fields in all objects that do not define an
>     IRT, and delete the trouble field everywhere until end of 2012.

I don't agree to delete the trouble field everywhere since those are in
remarks right now and remarks are just free text remarks. ;-)

>     - Networks will be able to supply their own, direct contact
>       information for abuse departments.

They are able to do that right now. Nothing new.

>     - Abuse complaints will not be sent to the "wrong" contact any
>       more.

Ekhm. Don't take me wrong. I know only one well known organization which
sends me abuse complaints using wrong data. It is abusix.org.
And I do have proper contact information put in
person/role/inetnum/aut-num objects for all of my customers and I do a
regular cleanup and updates.

> 5.2 Disadvantages
> 
>     - No disadvantages are foreseen.

A lot of work for LIR staff.

> 7.  Effect on NIRs
> ------------------
> 
> It would be of benefit to the whole Internet community if NIRs were to
> implement a similar abuse contact scheme in their whois databases. But
> this would be another proposal.

Do we have NIRs in RIPE region?? ;-)

Best regards,
Piotr Strzyżewski

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