[anti-abuse-wg] 2010-08 New Policy Proposal (Abuse contact information)

Piotr Strzyzewski wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:20:38PM +0100, Frank Gadegast wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately you can't. But if everybody knows that the mandatory IRT
>>>
>>> Everybody? Stop joking. :) Every single regular not-technical user who
>>> heard about whois on facebook forum?
>>
>> I doubt that.
>> My personal expierience is that none of our normal users ever complained
>> about the spam and tried something like whois nor knows what whois is.
>
> Police. They use whois. They use very first email which they find in the
> database.

Sorry, that the police men you had contact with are that uneducated
(well, educate them). The police I had contact to knew how to use whois
right.

A new whois output having only personal email addresses
for admin-c, tech-c aso PLUS an easy identifiable IRT abuse object would 
be self-explaining anyway.
People are usually not that stupid to identify something they are
looking for, if the format is not confusing in the first place (like it
is now because of several places where abuse contacts can be stored).
The output format could insert a standard line, that its the abuse
contact in big letters with lots of stars ;o)

>> Maybe somebody from RIPE NCC can count how often dynamic IPs are using
>> whois compared to fixed networks ...
>
> Which proove what? A lot of regular users has non-dynamic IPs.

A percentage would be helpful.
Guess its only 10% of the whois queries or even less.

This would clearly indicate, that only pros use whois.
Specially because I think about all automated systems ...
Our blacklist is doing more whois queries a day then we
have customers all together ;o)
Far more ...


Kind regards, Frank


>
> Piotr
>


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