[anti-abuse-wg] 2010-08 New Policy Proposal (Abuse contact information)

Piotr Strzyzewski wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:37:25PM +0100, Tobias Knecht wrote:
>>> And how anybody could stop publishing this kind of info in remark
>>> fields?
>>
>> Unfortunately you can't. But if everybody knows that the mandatory IRT
>
> Everybody? Stop joking. :) Every single regular not-technical user who
> heard about whois on facebook forum?

I doubt that.
My personal expierience is that none of our normal users ever complained
about the spam and tried something like whois nor knows what whois is.

They maybe try to complain to the admin-c of the sender domain, but
would never identify the IP of the sender beeing the cause of the problem.

And thats why I think (but cannot proove with facts) that whois is only
used by RIPE members, ISPs, sophisticated network admins or blacklists
admins anyway.

Maybe somebody from RIPE NCC can count how often dynamic IPs are using
whois compared to fixed networks ...

>> is the place to publish abuse contact information, nobody will look for
>> remark fields any further. And if you have to have an IRT, why publish a
>> remark field with the same information?
>
> Since we are not going to delete that, there is huge change to have a
> lot of such remarks fields.

What could be automated easily by RIPE NCC.

RIPE NCC could contact members and list ranges without IRT objects
from time to time.

RIPE NCC could present those ranges when logging into RIPE portal
so the member could select and add the right IRT object with one click.
The portal could even detect abuse contacts in remarks and offer
to delete these lines in the same step.


Kind regards, Frank
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