[anti-abuse-wg] how to detect spambots - SPAMTrusted

Leo Vegoda wrote:
> On 10/03/2009 11:17, "peter h" <peter at hk.ipsec.se> wrote:

Hi,

>> UCE or spam is illegal in some countries, however legal authorities does not
>> seem willing to hunt and procecute.

No, they are willing but they are unable in most cases.

> I've spoken with a number of police officers involved in tackling e-crime
> issues and on the whole it seems to be a resource issue rather than a
> willingness issue. Training a police officer how to handle an investigation
> into something quite 'virtual' is not an easy or cheap task. This means
> there aren't very many trained officers and so they tend to be assigned to
> investigating the most serious offences.

Spam and Abuse is forbidden in Germany.

We had a lot of cases, from normal data crime (like competitors trying
to spy some data from our customers) to illegal archiving to
hacks, scans and password attacks, where we helped customers to
identify problems and tried to bring the attacker to court
according to German law.

So we were always involved and cooperated quite close with the legal
entities here. I can only say, that the entities in Germany are
well equipped and trained, know defny what they are doing and are
very willing.
We had a lot of very positive results, if the attack started in Germany
or other european countries, wich have similar laws.

And the entities always have one big problem:
- most attacks are started via abuse dial-in IPs somewhere in the world
   where they cannot work together with the provider, because provider
   has no interest

So, its always the same, its not that the legal entities are not
willing, its the providers, that are not willing to help to trace
any abuse back to the real originator.

This is one more reason to stop all spambot networks so that nobody
can hide anymore ...


Kind regards, Frank
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leo
> 
> 
> 
> 


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