[anti-abuse-wg] how to detect spambots - SPAMTrusted

Jan Pieter Cornet wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 05:44:28PM +0100, Jørgen Hovland wrote:
>> From many previous discussions I have a hard time believing that you will 
>> ever reach consensus on the definition of what spam is. Trying to ban it 
> 
> Definition, yes. UBE is usually easier to define and is practically
> equivalent to spam. But pretty much everyone recognizes a spam if they
> see one. It is therefore easy for a human to detect spam and take
> corrective action against a spammer or spamming host.
> 
>> With regards to a valid contact email address, not valid abuse 
>> emailaddress, I still believe that it should be optional.
> 
> What should be optional? The abuse address? The contact address? The
> validity? I think it's very reasonable to require all netblocks to have
> a valid contact email address.

Please do not forget, that the abuse field shoud be machine
readable, currently the abuse address is somewhere hiddden
in remark fields, normal email-fields or other things.

This is pretty much work for a programmer, if he likes
to report spam automatically.

Most provider do not like it, when its machine readable,
because spammer will flood these addresses and these addresses
cannot be used together with content filters, because reports
contain snippets from real spam quite often.

So: these addresses will be quite a pain, but:
thats an OLD argument and: if any provider will do something
against spam originating from his IPs, there will be much less
reports coming in ;o)

Kind regards, Frank

> (PS- Jørgen: your mail server rejected my direct message to you. You
> may want to fix that)
>  


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