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</style></head><body><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Although I agree that the 50% number is problematic, the explanation by Marco is sufficient for me to vote "aye" on this proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, we should probably fix this at some point, but I agree with Matthias that, given Marco's explanation, this should not be part of this particular round of review.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Steven</div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, 2023-06-30 at 09:58 +0000, Matthias Wichtlhuber via address-policy-wg wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>1. problematic edge cases in section 5 due to the magic figure of 50% utilisation<br></div><div>2. what is a "special circumstance"?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The proposal does not modify existing numbers (50%) or the "special circumstances". Both are in the current policy already (see old policy text 6.1 .4). I think the changes you propose should be done in a separate policy proposal as they are an addition to this policy proposal rather than a change.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Nevertheless RIPE has clarified how they handle the 50% issue currently (see Marco Schmidt's mail from mid May):<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>When receiving requests for more than a /24, the RIPE NCC checks that<br></div><div>the IXP will need more than 50% of the assignment within one year. If<br></div><div>their growth rate is too slow and we expect that it will take more than<br></div><div>a year to exceed that utilisation threshold, we suggest that they<br></div><div>postpone their request.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thus, this issue is not urgent and can be discussed separately. I hope that answers open questions.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div>Matthias<br></div><div><br></div><div>--<br></div><div>Dr.-Ing. 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Juni 2023 00:55:35<br></div><div>An: Nick Hilliard<br></div><div>Cc: RIPE Address Policy Working Group<br></div><div>Betreff: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2023-01 Review Phase (Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26)<br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree with Nick here regarding 1.<br></div><div>These magic numbers should really be fixed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-Cynthia<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:55 PM Nick Hilliard <<a href="mailto:nick@foobar.org">nick@foobar.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>Angela Dall'Ara wrote on 29/06/2023 15:19:<br></div><div><br></div><div>It is therefore important to provide your opinion, even if it is simply a restatement of your input from the previous phase.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>this version of the document hasn't addressed the problems I raised on April 26. The authors need to give some consideration about what might be the best approach to fixing them:<br></div><div><br></div><div>1. problematic edge cases in section 5 due to the magic figure of 50% utilisation<br></div><div>2. what is a "special circumstance"?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't believe that the document should progress until these issues are addressed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>