<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo18><span style='font-size:12.0pt'></span></span><span class=EstiloCorreo18><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi David,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Responding below, in-line.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 10/10/19 7:01, "address-policy-wg en nombre de David Farmer" <<a href="mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net">address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a> en nombre de <a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu">farmer@umn.edu</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 9:01 AM Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl" target="_blank">sander@steffann.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi,<br><br>> A new RIPE Policy proposal, 2019-06, "Multiple Editorial Changes in IPv6 Policy"<br>> is now available for discussion.<br>> <br>> This proposal aims to remove obsoleted text and simplify the IPv6 policy.<br><br>I think this is a sensible update. Support.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Sander<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I support the update, but have a question that I hope leads to a possible further clarification;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>In section 5.4.2 is an end site intended to be an end-user at a single physical location, or the entirety of an end-user organization, that may exist in many locations or on a large multi-building campus, and therefore might easily justify an assignment shorter than /48. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>My intent is to support both cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I agree it is difficult to imagine a single physical location needing more than a /48. On the other hand, a large multi-site organization, say with hundreds of locations or hundreds of buildings on a single campus can easily need a prefix significantly shorter than /48. Further, it seems like a waste of resources to have RIPE or a NIR review shorter prefix assignments when made for multi-site organizations or large campuses. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Exactly, the point is that LIR must be able to do that by themselves, and only have it reviewed in case they request a further allocation or there is an explicit audit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Further, the definition of "End Site" doesn't really add much clarity to this question. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>2.9. End Site<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>An End Site is defined as an End User (subscriber) who has a business or legal relationship (same or associated entities) with a service provider that involves:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>that service provider assigning address space to the End User<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>that service provider providing transit service for the End User to other sites<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>that service provider carrying the End User's traffic<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>that service provider advertising an aggregate prefix route that contains the End User's assignment<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>So, as currently written it seems a little ambiguous whether an end site is intended to refer to a single location or a single organization.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>My Reading of “</span><span lang=EN-US>An End Site is defined as an End User (subscriber) who has a business or legal relationship”, is that it applies the same to a single end-site or an end-user having multiple end-sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>If we believe that this is not correct, maybe we need to re-word that text as well?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>===============================================<br>David Farmer <a href="mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">Email:farmer@umn.edu</a><br>Networking & Telecommunication Services<br>Office of Information Technology<br>University of Minnesota <br>2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<br>Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<br>=============================================== <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><br>**********************************************<br> IPv4 is over<br> Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br> http://www.theipv6company.com<br> The IPv6 Company<br> <br> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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