<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:16 AM Peter Hessler <<a href="mailto:phessler@theapt.org">phessler@theapt.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Concrete suggestion:<br>
I think that person objects should have the address and phone attributes<br>
be changed from mandatory to optional.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And that means optional as in opt-in, not opt-out.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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It may also be worthwhile for there to be a *private* way to register<br>
addresses with RIPE NCC so they can use it for verification without<br>
violating the privacy of natural persons.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yup.</div><div><br></div></div>Additionally, in the cases where all contact objects are personal with contact information hidden, there needs to be an abuse object that can be used. The quality of actually usable abuse contact information is regrettably low across RIR databases, contact information quality is not a RIPE specific problem.<div><br></div><div>This either means that the LIR needs to be the abuse contact, or there needs to be a delegated abuse contact.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm nagging about this, because the Internet is full of abuse, and in the absence of functional abuse contact points, IP address ranges get blacklisted or blackholed without any notification reaching the network owner. <br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Jan</div></div></div>