<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><style></style></div><div>Hi Erik,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>sorry for the late reply.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>> If you look at the text, would the LIR who assigned IP space to their own infra-structure not also be an End-User ?</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I guess this depends on the definition of the "End User". Simply stating that in the "ASSIGNED PA" definition would make this in my opinion less ambiguous.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Martin Tonusoo</div><div>IP Network Engineer</div><div>--------------------------</div><div> CITIC Telecom CPC</div><div> www.citictel-cpc.com</div><div>--------------------------</div><div>Direct: +372 622 3321</div><div>NOC 24/7: +372 622 3300</div><div>NOC 24/7: +7 495 9815670</div></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Erik Bais" <ebais@a2b-internet.com><br><b>To: </b>"Martin Tonusoo" <martin.tonusoo@citictel-cpc.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"address-policy-wg" <address-policy-wg@ripe.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 30, 2018 1:33:13 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [address-policy-wg] definition of "ASSIGNED PA" in IPv4 address allocation and assignment policy<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Martin, </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If you look at the text, would the LIR who assigned IP space to their own infra-structure not also be an End-User ? </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In the past, the LIR would describe IP space for themselves as Infra or INFRA-AW, but still give it the status Assigned PA. </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Something along the lines of this example : <a href="https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=ripe&key=178.249.152.0%20-%20178.249.152.127&type=inetnum" target="_blank"> https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=ripe&key=178.249.152.0%20-%20178.249.152.127&type=inetnum</a> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards,</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Erik Bais </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p> <div style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">From: </span></b><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">address-policy-wg <address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Martin Tonusoo <martin.tonusoo@citictel-cpc.com><br> <b>Date: </b>Tuesday 13 November 2018 at 13:42<br> <b>To: </b>"address-policy-wg@ripe.net" <address-policy-wg@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject: </b>[address-policy-wg] definition of "ASSIGNED PA" in IPv4 address allocation and assignment policy</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Hello,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">according to "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region"(ripe-708) document, the "status" attribute value "ASSIGNED PA" has a definition of "This address space has been assigned to an End User for use with services provided by the issuing LIR". As "ASSIGNED PA" should also be used for assignments for LIR own infrastructure, then isn't the definition of "This address space has been assigned to the issuing LIR infrastructure or End User for use with services provided by the issuing LIR." bit more accurate?</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Best regards,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Martin Tonusoo</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">IP Network Engineer</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">--------------------------</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> CITIC Telecom CPC</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> www.citictel-cpc.com</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">--------------------------</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Direct: +372 622 3321</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">NOC 24/7: +372 622 3300</span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">NOC 24/7: +7 495 9815670</span></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p> </div> </div> </div><br></div></div></body></html>