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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Martin, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If you think it would make sense, feel free to submit a policy proposal.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Please let Gert and myself know if you want to do that and we or Marco can assist if needed.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Erik Bais<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Martin Tonusoo <martin.tonusoo@citictel-cpc.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday 17 December 2018 at 16:20<br>
<b>To: </b>Erik Bais <ebais@a2b-internet.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"address-policy-wg@ripe.net" <address-policy-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [address-policy-wg] definition of "ASSIGNED PA" in IPv4 address allocation and assignment policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Erik,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">sorry for the late reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">> If you look at the text, would the LIR who assigned IP space to their own infra-structure not also be an End-User ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I guess this depends on the definition of the "End User". Simply stating that in the "ASSIGNED PA" definition would make this in my opinion less ambiguous.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">"Erik Bais" <ebais@a2b-internet.com><br>
<b>To: </b>"Martin Tonusoo" <martin.tonusoo@citictel-cpc.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"address-policy-wg" <address-policy-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 30, 2018 1:33:13 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [address-policy-wg] definition of "ASSIGNED PA" in IPv4 address allocation and assignment policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Hi Martin, </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">If you look at the text, would the LIR who assigned IP space to their own infra-structure not also be an End-User ?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">In the past, the LIR would describe IP space for themselves as Infra or INFRA-AW, but still give it the status Assigned PA.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Something along the lines of this example :
<a href="https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=ripe&key=178.249.152.0%20-%20178.249.152.127&type=inetnum" target="_blank">
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=ripe&key=178.249.152.0%20-%20178.249.152.127&type=inetnum</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Erik Bais </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">address-policy-wg <address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Martin Tonusoo <martin.tonusoo@citictel-cpc.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 13 November 2018 at 13:42<br>
<b>To: </b>"address-policy-wg@ripe.net" <address-policy-wg@ripe.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[address-policy-wg] definition of "ASSIGNED PA" in IPv4 address allocation and assignment policy</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hello,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">according to "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region"(ripe-708) document, the "status" attribute value "ASSIGNED PA" has
a definition of "This address space has been assigned to an End User for use with services provided by the issuing LIR". As "ASSIGNED PA" should also be used for assignments for LIR own infrastructure, then isn't the definition of "This address space has been
assigned to the issuing LIR infrastructure or End User for use with services provided by the issuing LIR." bit more accurate?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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