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<p>Hi Lu,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 19/10/2016 12:33, Lu Heng ha
scritto:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 October 2016 at 12:18, Gert
Doering <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gert@space.net" target="_blank">gert@space.net</a>></span>
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:00:47PM +0200, Lu Heng wrote:<br>
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<span class="gmail-">> What I have said is one of the
concern that have to be addressd with an<br>
> reasonable counter argument.<br>
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</span>Thanks for the clarification.<br>
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> Chair's job is not collecting vote but make sure
all concerns have been<br>
> addressed reasonablely.<br>
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</span>Thanks for telling me what my job is, I wouldn't
have guessed otherwise.<br>
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Just for the record: part of the WG Chair's job is to
judge the "roughness"<br>
of consensus based on the amount of supporting and
opposing voices - both<br>
the number, and the quality of arguments have to be
weighted (and to some<br>
extent the person making a certain argument).<br>
<br>
And if I cannot be sure what to make out of a statement,
then I can either<br>
ask for clarity, or just discard as "random noise".<br>
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<div>Agian, voicing concern is not exact same thing as "<span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px">opposition</span>",
I have a concern, if it can be addressed well with
reasonable conter argument, I might support.</div>
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<div>It's the very defination of the process “reaching
consensus".</div>
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<div>But again, I think it is not about the policy in
discussion, we should stop here.</div>
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<div>I agree with Nick just said, it does not fix the core
problem: the large eonomical difference between </div>
<div>RIPE NCC member fees and market price for IPv4 will
permenent exsists, Ramco said puting a sticker </div>
<div>"not for sale" to decrease its value, it might be true,
but the gap in those two mgiht just be too big(and will be
bigger in the future) to close.</div>
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Very nice example. I agree.<br>
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Kind regards.<br>
Lu<br>
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