<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> </head> <body dir="auto"> <div>Of course strongly governmentally controlled countries (governments use to have less people understanding how the internet works) doesn't make that easier. And as you pointed out, a few seem to understand. </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature">But because transit is lacking v6 at the moment, that cannot be the reason not making up the network for dual stack. </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature">One day the few voices in become more and the transit issue will be gone, and you're just a few steps away setting your services to production. </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"> Von meinem iPhone gesendet</div> <div> Am 12.06.2016 um 17:30 schrieb Arash Naderpour <<a href="mailto:arash_mpc@parsun.com">arash_mpc@parsun.com</a>>: </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> <div class="WordSection1"> <a name="_MailEndCompose">As an example in Iran there is only one exit point (AS12880 and AS48159 belongs to one organization) from country to global carriers controlled by government and as they have no LI platform yet on IPv6 there is simply no IPv6 service availability or possibility for Iranian service providers. <o:p></o:p></a> <o:p> </o:p> There is no possibility to have a direct peering with a global carrier and as a result no native IPv6 connectivity yet. there is also no IXP in the country. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> As I said it is not about the difficulty of deploying IPv6, when it is not lawful and is not available to ISPs they have to stick with IPv4. Please refer to ripe ncc lab report and see some IPv4 import figures <a href="https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/developments-in-ipv4-transfers">https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/developments-in-ipv4-transfers</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Arash<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> P.S last month they started advertising of the IPv6 blocks but no plan to provide a service to ISPs as yet.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: address-policy-wg [<a href="mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net">mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On Behalf Of Sergey Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 1:10 AM To: <a href="mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net">address-policy-wg@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Global carriers provide that connectivity. What's the problem?<o:p></o:p> <div> On 06/12/16 18:08, Arash Naderpour wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> I was not talking about a global carrier and if they can provide IPv6 or not, It was about availability and possibilities to have IPv6 connectivity everywhere. There are two different subject.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Arash<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> From: Dominik Nowacki [<a href="mailto:dominik@clouvider.co.uk">mailto:dominik@clouvider.co.uk</a>] Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 12:42 AM To: Arash Naderpour <a href="mailto:arash_mpc@parsun.com"><arash_mpc@parsun.com></a> Cc: Alexander Koeppe <a href="mailto:Alexander.Koeppe@merckgroup.com"><Alexander.Koeppe@merckgroup.com></a>; <a href="mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net">address-policy-wg@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p></o:p> <div> Not available ?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"> Please name a global carrier that does not support IPv6.<o:p></o:p> <div> With Kind Regards, <o:p></o:p> </div> Dominik Nowacki Clouvider Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: <a href="tel:08750969">08750969</a>. Registered office: 88 Wood Street, London, United Kingdom, EC2V 7RS. Please note that Clouvider Limited may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security and staff training. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient. If you do not believe you are the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify <a href="mailto:abuse@clouvider.net">abuse@clouvider.net</a> of this e-mail immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Clouvider Limited nor any of its employees therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> On 12 Jun 2016, at 16:40, Arash Naderpour <<a href="mailto:arash_mpc@parsun.com">arash_mpc@parsun.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> And I don't understand why some people think that everyone can deploy IPv6, it is simply not available everywhere. It is not about difficulty, it is about possibility. Regards, Arash -----Original Message----- From: address-policy-wg [<a href="mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net">mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a>] On Behalf Of Alexander Koeppe Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 12:09 AM To: <a href="mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net">address-policy-wg@ripe.net</a> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space I don't understand how much time and energy is being put into the discussion about keeping vintage IP alive. This time and energy would be better off spent in just deploying v6. It's just not that difficult. You just need to develop a stepwise approach. A one-shot would probably fail. -- Alex <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Am 11.06.2016 um 22:35 schrieb Gert Doering <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>>:<o:p></o:p> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Hi,<o:p></o:p> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:14:11PM +0300, NTX NOC wrote:<o:p></o:p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> About IPv6 - still now in Russia there are no Home ISPs who gives <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> IPv6 by default to customers. 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