<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-15" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Completely agree with Riccardo on this. I've addressed this question via IRC during GM, why the strict audit is not possible - and got a response that it's against policy. Google has supported this concern. If there is problem with policy, the policy should be changed, not workarounds against the policy added. <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/07/16 00:09, Riccardo Gori wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:29443ee5-1cb7-8401-9677-d6807e4e9d07@wirem.net" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-15"> Hi, although I understand the spirit of this policy in my opinion there's a big problem behind it: seems that has been thought for reasoucers not in use. I really don't get how a space can be de-registered once announced and in use and after have been allocated under regular procedures and business processes. A new entrant would see his investments vanified by a rule that make possibile transferts possbile only for old LIRs that acquired space before 09/2012. I think this really creates barrier to ingress in the market. If a return policy has to be proposed this should address the whole IPv4 RIPE Region space to be fair and catch where IPs are stockpiled and not in use. Anyway we all know that's quite impossible. To address the problem of abuse RIPE NCC should enforce audit and check if the LIR "make assignement(s)" as stated in the policy. This could be a way to get rid of buy/sell just for speculation. I cannot support this policy regards Riccardo <div class="moz-signature">-- <pre>Ing. Riccardo Gori e-mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rgori@wirem.net">rgori@wirem.net</a> </pre> <img src="cid:part2.07020904.05060004@fotontel.ru" width="200"> <pre>WIREM Fiber Revolution Net-IT s.r.l. Via Cesare Montanari, 2 47521 Cesena (FC) Tel +39 0547 1955485 Fax +39 0547 1950285 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message and its attachments are addressed solely to the persons above and may contain confidential information. If you have received the message in error, be informed that any use of the content hereof is prohibited. Please return it immediately to the sender and delete the message. Should you have any questions, please contact us by re- plying to <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info@wirem.net">info@wirem.net</a> Thank you WIREM - Net-IT s.r.l.Via Cesare Montanari, 2 - 47521 Cesena (FC) -------------------------------------------------------------------- </pre> </div> </blockquote> <div class="moz-signature">-- Kind regards, CTO at Foton Telecom CJSC Tel.: +7 (499) 679-99-99 nic-hdl: SS29286-RIPE AS42861 on <a href="http://as42861.peeringdb.com/">PeeringDB</a>, <a href="https://radar.qrator.net/as42861">Qrator</a>, <a href="http://bgp.he.net/AS42861">BGP.HE.NET</a> "Amazing photons Carry our data worldwide Never seem to stop" (c) JUNOS</div> </body> </html>