<div dir="ltr">On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Riccardo Gori <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgori@wirem.net" target="_blank">rgori@wirem.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>thank you for your questions. I try to answer below<br>
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<pre>Be specific, is it for having more address for the end-users? Datacenter?
Services? Infrastructure? IPv6-to-IPv4 services? CGN? Proxyes?
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It's happening: end customers of new operators (read as new LIRs)
are requesting new services such as datacenters or multihoming and
IPv6 deployment in the meanwhile.<br>
Those are the tipical request that I reiceve. For example to
multihome and bgp a customer I need a /24<br>
What if I have no address space to provide? I can ask my customer
to sign up and he will get a /22 automatically wasting a 3 x /24<br>
I think in many cases this is why we are registering such new sign
up growth trends.<br>
I already said in past emails that when I started our business of
fiber optic provider the carrier said to us "ask us for transport
and access but not for addresses. sign up and get yours"<br>
This is reflecting in all the chain from top to bottom. This could
be a point where to act. If we turn the request re-introducing
justification and we turn minimum request to a /24<br>
we can address this kind of problem while slowing down LIRs sign up
rate to obtain a /23 or /24 to address this kind of requests<br>
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hope this help in understand small player needings<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You have given me no real reason, just nice to have. We passed nice to have some years ago.<br><br></div><div></div><div>End users cannot continue to get a /24, there are not enough address space for that, sorry but that's life. Sure some operators have enough and that's unfair for others. Only way for them to get something like that is to either become LIR, or use IPv6. Why is it so hard to understand that?<br><br><br></div><div>So I ask _again_, where is the IPv4 need? What type of usage is it ment for? We've passed the "it's nice to have" some years ago, now we're down to , do you _really_ need 10 addresses? Can you survive with 2 and deploy IPv6?<br></div><div><br><br clear="all"></div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><br>Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE<br><a href="mailto:rogerj@gmail.com" target="_blank">rogerj@gmail.com</a> | - IPv6 is The Key!<br><a href="http://www.jorgensen.no" target="_blank">http://www.jorgensen.no</a> | <a href="mailto:roger@jorgensen.no" target="_blank">roger@jorgensen.no</a></div>
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