<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>I would support this proposal with some amendments, first there should be a 'top-cap' on how many IPs a LIR can have and still request a new /22 every 18 months - for example if a LIR has an /20 equivalent or more already assigned this LIR could not request new allocation (this has already been pointed out on the list) and I think that there should also be a minimum RIPE free space cap, where if we would reach somewhere in the range of /12 only new LIRs are eligible to get new /22 allocation. <br><br></div>This is to get new entrants in the market some more wiggle room against the old players.<br><br></div>Sincerely,<br></div>Uros<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Ciprian Nica <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:office@ip-broker.uk" target="_blank">office@ip-broker.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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On 10/21/2015 1:26 PM, Shahin Gharghi wrote:<br>
> Hello<br>
><br>
> I support this proposal. If you are worry about running out of IPv4, you<br>
> should stop those are registering new LIRs, transfer the IPs and close the<br>
> LIR. Even 2015-01 is unable to stop them.<br>
> If it is limited to those LIRs who didn't transfer any IP to other LIRs, I<br>
> think it could reduce amount of unnecessary transfers.<br>
> I heard a lot about this: "New entrants should have access to IPv4". I<br>
> think you should say that in this way: " The new entrants should have<br>
> access to the INTERNET". Don't you think the new LIRs need to run IPv6? or<br>
> imagine we are in 2020 and we ran out of IPv4, what should we do? Do it<br>
> now. I think we are just postpone switching to v6.<br>
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</span>If RIPE runs out of IPv4 sooner it will not help switching to v6 faster.<br>
It only means that the new entrants will have to buy the resources from<br>
the market at prices which will be obviously higher.<br>
<br>
Iran is a good example, as a country can be considered a relatively new<br>
entrant. What has happened over there ? 0.05% IPv6 adoption rate<br>
according to google stats and Iran is the #1 importing country of IPv4<br>
resources.<br>
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I don't understand why there's still this confusion that if RIPE's pool<br>
will be empty, many think there will be no more IPv4 available and<br>
everyone will go the next day to IPv6. It's totally wrong.<br>
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