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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jan, <br>
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thanks for you reply<br>
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Il 11/06/2015 23.56, Jan Ingvoldstad ha scritto:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM,
Riccardo Gori <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi all,<br>
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fixed that I am against abuses. I think we have to keep
in mind that RIPE task is resource distribution not
holding them in a drawer.<br>
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06/2015 - AVAILABLE IPv4 /8s IN<br>
RIPE 1.09 <br>
ARIN 0.13<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.arin.net/"
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task: distribute resources. ARIN has almost reached the
task don't you think?<br>
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Was ironic to point out that there are many different point of
views.<br>
Someone thinks that IPv6 will grow when IPv4 will be completly
exhausted.<br>
I can't see any other reason to allow inter-RIR transfert (2014-05)
to address the need of address space where is available or
"stock-piled and unused"<br>
So the good guy who stockpiled is the old cheater that needed IPv4
/15 - /17 or the new cheater that needed many IPv4 /22 ? I see no
differences.<br>
About the policy in RIPE region:<br>
Acceped march 2015: 2014-04, "Removing IPv6 Requirement for
Receiving Space from the Final /8"<br>
Acceped april 2015: 2014-05 Proposal Accepted (Policy for Inter-RIR
Transfers of Internet Resources)<br>
I see easiness<br>
in 2015-01 I see "alignement", you can find the same rule 24months
in 2014-05 <br>
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<div>Without acknowledging your interpretation of
"distributing resources", I would like to point out that
when ARIN in a very short time no longer has any of these
resources to distribute, they will, _forever_, fail to do
their task, while RIPE still will carry out that task.</div>
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I think they should have an IPv6 /12 as other RIRs to distribute...<br>
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<div>So if we accepted your premise that that is _The Task_,
RIPE will be performing the task better than ARIN, and not
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I think both are complying the task as well as the bottom-up
approved policies.<br>
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regards<br>
good night<br>
Riccardo<br>
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