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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/08/2015 03:40 PM, remco van mook
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<div dir="ltr">Three years and one day ago, I wrote on this very
list:
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<p class="p1"><span class="s1">"...Personally I'm rather sick
and tired of hearing people say 'yes, let's </span>break
IPv4 so we all MUST move to IPv6'. If you think this is good
policy or even good engineering, please think again. It will
make us end up with a broken internet that, surprise, we
won't be managing any more. Breaking IPv4 might lead to
increased IPv6 adoption, but not on the internet as we know
it today. Everybody who wants to connect his organisation to
the internet is going to need at least some IPv4 address
space for the time being, so why screw it up for new
entrants?..."</p>
<p class="p1">Whether this is about reinventing final /8 or
about people making money on IPv4 transfers does not make
one jot of a difference.</p>
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<p class="p1">Remco</p>
<p class="p1">(no hats)</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:54 PM
Sebastian Wiesinger <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sebastian@karotte.org">sebastian@karotte.org</a>>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">* Dan
Lüdtke <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mail@danrl.de" target="_blank">mail@danrl.de</a>>
[2015-05-08 11:33]:<br>
> See, we can not win this games. Let’s stop wasting
energy and<br>
> resources on dealing with legacy IP and how to make
it work for a<br>
> bit longer. New entrants are entering are market that
is not fair,<br>
> and we can not make a real difference. The only way
forward is to<br>
> push IPv6 and restore a healthy climate regarding the
availability<br>
> of IP addresses.<br>
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Dan,<br>
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if you don't want to invest your time trying to make this
market more<br>
fair by all means go ahead and do something else. There
are still<br>
people here who would like to try so that new players can
enter a<br>
market that will be dominated by IPv4 for some time to
come.<br>
<br>
Most people here are pushing IPv6 but as much as you want
to bury IPv4<br>
it will still be around for some time.<br>
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Regards<br>
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Sebastian<br>
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'Are you Death?' ... IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE
ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE.<br>
-- Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant<br>
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