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Hi Sacha,<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/05/15 19:45, Sascha Luck [ml]
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:20150511174531.GK35191@cilantro.c4inet.net"
type="cite">On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 07:25:42PM +0200, Andre Keller
wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">If my interpretation of the IA is correct,
the retroactive part is
<br>
restricted to evaluation of transfer requests. It means if/once
the
<br>
policy is implemented, it applies to resources already allocated
by RIPE
<br>
NCC but not yet transferred. Resources already transferred wont
be
<br>
affected. I think this is a sensible approach.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Your interpretation is the same as mine, correct or not ;) The
<br>
crux is, though: it changes ripe-623, the "IPv4 Address
<br>
Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service
<br>
Region" document, not a hypothetical "Transfer Policies"
<br>
document. </blockquote>
correct...<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:20150511174531.GK35191@cilantro.c4inet.net"
type="cite">This sets a precedent for changing *everything else*
in
<br>
this document and applying the changes retrospectively. </blockquote>
This has already happened before (remember 2007-01?) and it happens
with every change of policy.. <br>
For example, criteria for making IPv4 assignments, 5 years ago, is
no longer the same today, the IPv4 policy has changed several times
since 2010 and everything that used to be policy in the past no
longer matters, what matters is the latest policy document and not
the criteria from years ago. <br>
<blockquote cite="mid:20150511174531.GK35191@cilantro.c4inet.net"
type="cite">I can't
be the only one who does not want to go there?
<br>
</blockquote>
I understand what you mean but, seriously, this will affect (based
on the IA) a maximum of 580 /22s (and for a period of 1 day to 2
years depending on the date the allocation would be received vs
policy implementation).<br>
It will not be a precedent, the precedent has been already approved
years ago.<br>
<br>
I would not support an implementation that would require the RIPE
NCC to apply the same policy differently for an allocation received
on the 20th of July vs an allocation received on the 21st of July.
This policy proposal's intent is to bring all allocations under the
same umbrella (once implemented) and not create more umbrellas..<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:20150511174531.GK35191@cilantro.c4inet.net"
type="cite">
<br>
rgds,
<br>
Sascha Luck
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
regards,<br>
elvis<br>
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