<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Stefan, On 22/01/15 12:38, Stefan Schiele wrote: </div> [...] <blockquote cite="mid:54C0E13F.9090909@sct.de" type="cite">The proposed policy change will speed up the shortage of IPv4 space; and therefore I still strongly oppose this proposal. </blockquote> I do not think there will be any difference in how much IPv4 will be requested/allocated from the last /8 if the policy changes. I could easily just use the LIR Portal 3-click request and get an IPv6 allocation if it's one of the steps in requesting the IPv4 allocation. It does not mean that I will actually use it or do anything with it. It's just a step in the process of me getting the /22 I wanted. <blockquote cite="mid:54C0E13F.9090909@sct.de" type="cite"> By the way, this proposal would increase prices on the IPv4 transfer market (due to it speeding up the shortening of the free IPv4 address space); and that is generally nothing that's good for the community, either. </blockquote> I doubt it will have any effect. The RIPE NCC still has more than a /8 in /22s (18.55 mil IP addresses) [1] and can allocate the /22s for at least 5-10 years (my personal opinion is that it will never stop allocating the /22s). Regards, Elvis [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph">https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph</a> <blockquote cite="mid:54C0E13F.9090909@sct.de" type="cite">Kind Regards, Stefan Schiele Am 22.01.2015 um 11:55 schrieb Gert Doering: <blockquote type="cite">Hi, On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:09:50AM +0000, Daniel Davis wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Our comment on thIs proposal is: We would not support this proposal to Remove the IPv6 Requirement for Receiving Space from the Final /8. This is because his policy encourages ripe members to start the process of using ipv6 addresses, and that given the shortage of ipv4 space migration is becoming increasingly important. By changing this policy we believe this will give out the wrong signals to the industry about ipv6 migration. </blockquote> This argument has been brought up before, and I consider it addressed (by asking the RIPE NCC to send very clear signals regarding IPv6 encouragements to future applicants, and also increasing their general IPv6 outreach). Last Call is there to bring up arguments opposing the proposal that have not been voiced and answered before - like, some completely new angle hat has been overlooked. As always, consensus does not have to be unanimous if there is sufficiently strong support. Gert Doering -- APWG chair </blockquote> </blockquote> <div class="moz-signature">-- <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="400"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" width="180"><a href="http://v4escrow.net" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00090504.00050307@v4escrow.net" style="margin:10px 40px 0px 0px" height="96" width="178"></a></td> <td valign="top" width="200"> <h1 style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); margin: 0px 0px 10px;color:#1a9bd7;font-size:14px; ">Elvis Daniel Velea</h1> <h2 style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); margin: 0px 0px 10px;color:#74757d;font-size:13px;font-weight:100; ">Chief Executive Officer</h2> Email: <a href="mailto:elvis@v4escrow.net" style="color:#74757d; text-decoration: none; ">elvis@V4Escrow.net</a> US Phone: +1 (702) 475 5914 EU Phone: +31 (0) 61458 1914 </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> Recognised IPv4 Broker/Facilitator in: </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> <img src="cid:part4.02070600.03030700@v4escrow.net" usemap="#Map" style="margin-top:5px;" border="0" height="28" width="376"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="padding-left:5px;padding-right:15px;"> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original.Any other use of this email is strictly prohibited. </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <map name="Map"> <area shape="rect" coords="1,2,65,28" href="http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/brokers" target="_blank"> <area shape="rect" coords="138,0,234,31" href="http://www.apnic.net/services/become-a-member/manage-your-membership/transfer-resources/transfer-facilitators" target="_blank"> <area shape="rect" coords="297,3,380,40" href="https://www.arin.net/resources/transfer_listing/facilitator_list.html" target="_blank"> </map> </div> </body> </html>