<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Sergey,<br />
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> <span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:monospace,fixed">I see. You mentioned 37 transfers in 2014, that equal to /17,/20,/22.<br />
> Is this number </span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:monospace,fixed">significant enough to develop the policy change?</span><br />
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I think, yes. While amont of such transfers from last /8 will increase anyway.<br />
Sergey, what is your opinion?<br />
<br />
--<br />
Aleksei<br />
<br />
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12.08.2014 03:23 - Sergey Myasoedov написал(а):
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> Yes. I afaraid that last /8 will be used for creating new LIRs only reselling IPv4-adresses. As a result last /8 will be run out very fast.<br />
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I see. You mentioned 37 transfers in 2014, that equal to /17,/20,/22. Is this<br />
number significant enough to develop the policy change?<br />
<br />
<br />
--<br />
Sergey<br />
<br />
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On 11 Aug 2014, at 21:49, LeaderTelecom Ltd. <info@leadertelecom.ru> wrote:<br />
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> Dear Sergey,<br />
><br />
> > I am able to read the written text :) but I don’t see the reason for your proposal.<br />
> Ok. I thinked that I wrote not very clear.<br />
><br />
> > Or maybe you would like to limit the practice when companies being created for requesting allocation only?<br />
><br />
> Yes. I afaraid that last /8 will be used for creating new LIRs only reselling IPv4-adresses. As a result last /8 will be run out very fast.<br />
><br />
> If the last /8 starts from digth "185" then we can see thansfers from companies:<br />
> 23.01.2013 "TOP NET" PJSC<br />
> 15.05.2013 CallWithMe<br />
> 01.07.2013 VERIXI SPRL<br />
> 04.07.2013 PJSC "Fars Telecommunication Company"<br />
> 09.07.2013 Aria Web Development LLC<br />
> 16.10.2013 Pars Fonoun Ofogh Information Technology and Communications Company LTD<br />
> 17.12.2013 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"<br />
> 02.01.2014 Sara Rebollido Sueiro<br />
> 24.01.2014 NOV'IT SAS<br />
> 27.01.2014 Flex Networks Services B.V.<br />
> 27.01.2014 IPhouse B.V.<br />
> 27.01.2014 NLTM B.V.<br />
> 04.02.2014 Dark Group Ltd<br />
> 04.02.2014 Froehlich-Reisen GmbH<br />
> 05.02.2014 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"<br />
> 13.02.2014 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"<br />
> 13.02.2014 Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks"<br />
> 13.02.2014 Skylogic Polska Sp. Z.o.o.<br />
> 28.02.2014 Netfactor Iletisim Hizmetleri Limited Sirketi<br />
> 13.03.2014 LLC Arksys<br />
> 21.03.2014 Xite Group BV<br />
> 25.03.2014 ANDRZEJ BACINSKI trading as PUMPS & SYSTEMS<br />
> 10.04.2014 LEVEL IP ITALIA S.R.L.<br />
> 29.04.2014 STIS Engineering co. LTD<br />
> 06.05.2014 Santrex Internet Services Ltd.<br />
> 08.05.2014 AnDilo AB<br />
> 13.05.2014 GLASHELDER BV<br />
> 15.05.2014 Reseau Stella SARL<br />
> 16.05.2014 Connect-it Telecom BV<br />
> 16.05.2014 Mobile Communications (MOCO) BV<br />
> 02.06.2014 A.M. Bayhan is trading as "DediColo Services"<br />
> 02.06.2014 DediColo B.V.<br />
> 04.06.2014 CLOUDGLOBAL FRANCE SAS<br />
> 06.06.2014 Optimal IT Development SRL<br />
> 20.06.2014 BIKS+ Ltd<br />
> 20.06.2014 CJSC ADVANTAGE TELECOM<br />
> 26.06.2014 International Communication company Persian Sheetsan Ltd.<br />
> 10.07.2014 TELECABLE LTD<br />
> 23.07.2014 "StoTelecom" Ltd.<br />
> 23.07.2014 Michiel Muhlenbaumer<br />
> 29.07.2014 EMY AUTO BEST SRL<br />
> 30.07.2014 Host Sailor Ltd.<br />
> 31.07.2014 Van Veen Beheer BV<br />
> 04.08.2014 WBS Consulting Czech Republic s.r.o.<br />
> <br />
> <br />
> --<br />
> Aleksei<br />
><br />
> 11.08.2014 21:58 - Sergey Myasoedov написал(а):<br />
> Aleksei,<br />
> I am able to read the written text :) but I don’t see the reason for your<br />
> proposal.<br />
><br />
> Do you consider unfair single (at least in first 2 years) allocation transfer?<br />
> Why?<br />
><br />
> Or maybe you would like to limit the practice when companies being created for<br />
> requesting allocation only?<br />
><br />
><br />
> --<br />
> Sergey<br />
><br />
> On 11 Aug 2014, at 18:09, LeaderTelecom Ltd. <info@leadertelecom.ru> wrote:<br />
><br />
> > Sergey,<br />
> ><br />
> > > what is the point of your proposal?<br />
> > I propose don't allow transfers from last /8 during first 2 years afer date of allocation from RIPE NCC pool.<br />
> ><br />
> > Example: some LIR get IPv4 from last /8 at 11.08.2014. In period 11.08.2014 - 10.08.2016 transfer of it's IPs are not allowed. Since 11.08.2016 this LIR can transfer IPv4 to any LIR.<br />
> > <br />
> > --<br />
> > Aleksei<br />
> > <br />
> > LL> Dear Sirs,<br />
> ><br />
> > LL> I suggest to allow transfer from the last /8 only in 2 years after date of<br />
> > LL> allocation from RIPE NCC. I see in the transfer list that this is already<br />
> > LL> common practice to transfer /22 from the last /8.<br />
> > LL> Any Pros/cons?<br />
> ><br />
> > LL> --<br />
> > LL> Aleksei Ivanov<br />
> > LL> LeaderTelecom<br />
> ><br />
> ><br />
> > <br />
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