<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello,<br><br></div>I do not like civil wars, wars or similar events, however, shell we punish LIRs because they work in an area of conflict?<br><br></div>Defnitely not.<br><br>
</div>Shall we punish the end users?<br><br></div>Definitely not.<br><br></div>Shell we discuss at RIPE lists the political or military conflicts?<br><br></div><div>Definitely not.<br><br></div><div>I fully agree with Axel Pawlik and Richard Hartmann.<br>
<br></div><div>Thnkx,<br><br></div><div>Géza<br></div><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM, <a href="mailto:ksyu@netassist.ua">ksyu@netassist.ua</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ksyu@netassist.ua" target="_blank">ksyu@netassist.ua</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">lets see this article<br>
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<a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.0002.01.ENG" target="_blank">http://eur-lex.europa.eu/<u></u>legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=<u></u>uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.<u></u>0002.01.ENG</a><br>
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29.07.2014 16:45, Richard Hartmann пишет:<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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Dmitriy, all,<br>
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as has been stated repeatedly, this is not the place for this discussion.<br>
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The initial question was "will RIPE NCC hand resources to a LIR in<br>
Crimea, based on Russian papers" and the clear answer is "if said<br>
papers establish the existence of the LIR and substantiate the LIR's<br>
claims, yes".<br>
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I am sure many people hold strong opinions on the topic of Crimea, but<br>
neither RIPE NCC nor RIPE community is the place to discuss this<br>
topic. Does this, and other, situations suck? Yes. Can RIPE NCC do<br>
anything about it? No.<br>
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As Gert pointed out, what you seem to be arguing for is basically a<br>
punishment for any Crimean LIRs for being located in a region of<br>
conflict. What would that achieve? About as much as the current<br>
discussion.<br>
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Richard<br>
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PS: There have been and are other conflict regions within RIPE region;<br>
those are not punished for being in the wrong place, either.<br>
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PPS: You are free to try and submit a PDP and/or bring the topic up at<br>
a RIPE meeting, but don't expect consensus.<br>
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