<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear Shane,<br />
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> But I thought the whole point of the special policy for the last /8 was<br />
> to support new companies, who did not have a chance to get any reserves?<br />
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Correct. <br />
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I see 2 cases:<br />
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1. "Old LIRs". They had some IP-space from previos /8. They had some IPs. And have some networks which were used not very accurate. They can optimize using IPv4 and didn't request IPv4 from last /24. They can give some IPs for clients. But I belive 80% of them will request IPv4 from last /8 during 12 month.<br />
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2. "New LIRs". Many "Old LIRs" tell to customers that they can give only 1-4 IPs. So in this case companies which need IPs will request them via RIPE as a new LIRs. <br />
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I think we should push deployment IPv6 and forget about any improvments policy for IPv4. <br />
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--<br />
Alexey<br />
LeaderTelecom<br />
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06.02.2013 16:53 - Shane Kerr написал(а):<br />
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Alexey,<br />
<br />
On Tuesday, 2013-02-05 14:11:35 +0400,<br />
LeaderTelecom Ltd. <info@leadertelecom.ru> wrote:<br />
> Dear Shane,<br />
><br />
> > That's about 6 years, assuming things stay constant.<br />
> > 2155 / 365.25 = 5.9<br />
> <br />
> Many companies in fact had reserves, while they thinked about future.<br />
<br />
But I thought the whole point of the special policy for the last /8 was<br />
to support new companies, who did not have a chance to get any reserves?<br />
<br />
To me, the policy makes no sense otherwise.<br />
<br />
> I think the most intresting changes we will see during next 12 month.<br />
> Amount of requests IPv4 from last /8 can rapidly increase (in 2-5<br />
> times).<br />
<br />
We see a spike in the number of new LIR which happened almost exactly<br />
at the same time the IPv4 addresses ran out and the "one allocation per<br />
new LIR" policy went into effect:<br />
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<a href="https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/lirs-with-and-without-ipv6" target="_blank" title="https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/lirs-with-and-without-ipv6">https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/lirs-with-and-without-ipv6</a><br />
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It looks like people are creating new LIR to circumvent the intent of<br />
the policy - reserving IPv4 space for newcomers.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
<br />
--<br />
Shane</div>
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