<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear Nick,<br />
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> > We allow to use our PA space with any transit provider. So customers will<br />
> > be provider independent.<br />
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> So what happens when your customer leaves or gets into a dispute with you?<br />
> Is the PA assignment your IP address or theirs?<br />
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This is our PA. But why they will leave us if they have agreement only for PA-space (without IP-transit)? I see only 2 cases - price or customer don't need IPs and return back.<br />
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> If it's yours when they leave you, then it's not provider independent. This<br />
> is the way that most LIRs operate: PA assignments are valid as long as the<br />
> end user is a customer of the provider. Once they move to another provider<br />
> and stop taking services from you, then the address assignment is no longer<br />
> theirs.<br />
> This is what provider independent means. Anyone can multihome a /24 from<br />
> an allocated block, but it will still remain part of a PA allocation.<br />
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If customer will not pay to sponsoring LIR - RIPE will request IPs back too. <br />
I think using PA space is good option for now. And ASAP start use IPv6.<br />
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Alexey Ivanov<br />
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07.11.2012 18:06 - Nick Hilliard написал(а):<br />
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On 07/11/2012 13:53, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:<br />
> We allow to use our PA space with any transit provider. So customers will<br />
> be provider independent.<br />
<br />
So what happens when your customer leaves or gets into a dispute with you?<br />
Is the PA assignment your IP address or theirs?<br />
<br />
If it's yours when they leave you, then it's not provider independent. This<br />
is the way that most LIRs operate: PA assignments are valid as long as the<br />
end user is a customer of the provider. Once they move to another provider<br />
and stop taking services from you, then the address assignment is no longer<br />
theirs.<br />
<br />
This is what provider independent means. Anyone can multihome a /24 from<br />
an allocated block, but it will still remain part of a PA allocation.<br />
<br />
Nick<br />
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