<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear Tore,<br />
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> It is in any case already possible to determine that there has been an<br />
> IPv4 address transaction between two LIRs by, as Alex Le Heux pointed<br />
> out earlier, comparing different versions of the files available on<br />
> <a href="ftp://ftp.ripe.net" target="_blank" title="ftp://ftp.ripe.net">ftp://ftp.ripe.net</a>. It's more cumbersome than the reading neat list requested<br />
> by this proposal, but it's certainly something the Russian mafia has<br />
> enough technical talent to do, if they want to. (It took me something<br />
> like 10 minutes.)<br />
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It is too difficult to analyse, while you need to do it systematically and it can be just changes names of company or transfer.<br />
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Alexey</div>
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06.11.2012 13:34 - Tore Anderson написал(а):<br />
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* LeaderTelecom Ltd.<br />
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> 1 IP address transfers for 10-20USD. Just multiple count of IP x 15 USD.<br />
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The size of the monetary compensation (if any) is likely to be<br />
confidential between the parties. There's no IPv4 stock exchange where<br />
everyone can can see the buying and selling prices. As there has been<br />
only very few transactions in the RIPE region to date, I don't think you<br />
can so easily conclude that US$15 is the market price everyone will end<br />
up paying.<br />
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The proposal only seeks to document a transfer has happened, not any<br />
prices paid (it is doubtful that the NCC is privy to this information in<br />
any case). This is in keeping with the "Registration" goal of the<br />
internet registry system (see ripe-553 section 3.0).<br />
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It is in any case already possible to determine that there has been an<br />
IPv4 address transaction between two LIRs by, as Alex Le Heux pointed<br />
out earlier, comparing different versions of the files available on<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp.ripe.net" target="_blank" title="ftp://ftp.ripe.net">ftp://ftp.ripe.net</a>. It's more cumbersome than the reading neat list requested<br />
by this proposal, but it's certainly something the Russian mafia has<br />
enough technical talent to do, if they want to. (It took me something<br />
like 10 minutes.)<br />
<br />
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Tore Anderson<br />
Redpill Linpro AS - <a href="http://www.redpill-linpro.com" target="_blank" title="http://www.redpill-linpro.com">http://www.redpill-linpro.com</a></div>
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