<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Dear </span>Sander<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">,</span><br />
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> But exactly the same can happen with sub-allocated address space. Why would<br />
> transfers be any different? At least with a transfer you can show that the<br />
> responsibility for those addresses was (temporarily) transferred to another<br />
> organisation. With sub-allocated addresses the responsibility remains with the<br />
> original holder, who would then probably even have a bigger problem explaining<br />
> everything and getting off the spam lists.<br />
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> This seems to be an argument *in favour* of using temporary transfers...<br />
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It is very difficult discuss with black lists delisting. Some of black lists can ignore requests. <br />
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It is better prevent blacklisting.<br />
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If I understund well policy of transfers - minimal term of transfer - 2 years. It is too long too. I understund that it is normail for EU, but for Russia most of agreement usualy for 1 year.<br />
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Alexey Ivanov<br />
LeaderTelecom B.V. Team<br />
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14.10.2012 16:23 - Sander Steffann написал(а):<br />
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Hi,<br />
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> > > Permanenent transfer cost [...]<br />
><br />
> > Please remember that the current transfer policy explicitly states "This<br />
> > re-allocation may be on either a permanent or non-permanent basis." so you can<br />
> > already use the current transfer policy for temporary transfers.<br />
><br />
> After temporary transfer you can receive back IPs which listed in Spamhouse. I don't know any company which will temporary transfers IPs.<br />
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But exactly the same can happen with sub-allocated address space. Why would<br />
transfers be any different? At least with a transfer you can show that the<br />
responsibility for those addresses was (temporarily) transferred to another<br />
organisation. With sub-allocated addresses the responsibility remains with the<br />
original holder, who would then probably even have a bigger problem explaining<br />
everything and getting off the spam lists.<br />
<br />
This seems to be an argument *in favour* of using temporary transfers...<br />
Sander<br />
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